Any Plans for Liquids?

[JoeJ]

So far the higher the go is 12 Gen, but those do not have a good competitive embedded gpu.

Looking up those benches: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17601/intel-core-i9-13900k-and-i5-13600k-review/13
It seems there is no big difference between 12th and 13th gen iGPU?

I do not really follow Intels iGPU effords, but saw they do plan for a very powerful iGPU. Maybe out in 1-2 years i guess.
AMDs 6800U can run Cyperpunk in 1080p at 30 fps. It's a 3.5 tf GPU. That's quite nice, and next year there will be even better stuff.

But there are two problems:
APUs are considered only for Laptops, not for desktop. So they won't help us much against increasing prices until this changes. (And i can not even get a 6800U laptop without an additional dGPU, which really is stupid.)
But the bigger problem is: They can not really build powerful iGPUs because bandwidth to system ram is too low.
So either they need to replace DDR ram with GDDR ram like consoles do,
or they include ram into the chip package, like Apple does.

I'd love this to happen, but it won't anytime soon.
Even DDR6 will give us only so much bandwidth of a PS4.
That's not enough to keep up with increasing standards, so my dream about affordable APUs for gamers, replacing expensive dGPUs won't come true

For your development it's surely fine, but just saying.
PC platform for games seems doomed to die out within the next decade, and iGPU was my only hope to prevent this.

[Julio Jerez]

Oh you are right the 12 Gen gpu come with arc 770 hpu.
My impression was they where still the 630 and 650s

That change a lot, I guess I will older a nuc box, with a 12 Gen icore 9

That's quite sufficient to be in the middle of the row for performance.

The think is Joe, that intel gpu come with an embedded gpu, only you get the extreme version with the k suffix.

My pc, originally did not have discrete gpu, it has two hdmi socket in the moder board,
They can be enable from the bios.

The problem for me was that intel driver did not enumerate them, when I try scyl, but I support since has changed.

I will just order a NUC 12 for my Christmas gift, and start the
Gpu version as a side project.

[JoeJ]

I've looked it up (some 'enthusiast' model), probably it has this GPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/arc-a770m.c3909

But that's not a iGPU, but a discrete mobile GPU, with massive horsepower
Looks like a very nice system.