Objects suddenly bounce off?

[Marc]

Ok it's done. Try again. I tried playing with your account and it worked.

[Julio Jerez]

Ok I t have to be tomorrow I am at work now.

[Julio Jerez]

I am trying again but it does not work at all, gos into and infity loop and shwo these lien

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when I put a break point in Netwon Update it seems to be running but there are not visuil update at all
I sent you a PM with a link to and archive wit an Image of teh exact same demo I am running.
It hae teh Debug DLL, maybe you can find out what I am doing wroung.
I run cu.cmd and it hangd in Conenecting....

[Marc]

Hmm, does this happen when you run update or does it only happen when you use the debug newton.dll?

I'll check your download, the link doesn't work yet though.

When you keep seeing is debugging info for some kind of garbage collection, nothing related to physics and it should appear as well when the game is running normally.

[Marc]

Ok, I have the same effect on my pc. It's not "working" with your debugger dll but wiht the release version it does. The explenaition, I guess, is rather simple: Mine - and probabyl your pc too - is too slow to run the game with newton compiled in debugger mode.

I also just realiszed that you don't have admin priviledges which is why th e0 and 9 key don'T work in your account for removing things from the scene. I'll chang that and remove things from the scene tommorrow. It's already late here again I hope I can remove enough from the scene to make it work with newton compiled in debug mode.

As a sidenode: I have similar issues for my gamelogic/ai code. With enough objects in the scene it's impossible to debug it compiled in debug mode.

[Julio Jerez]

How many bodies do you have there?
Can you make a level with just one terrain and one actor?
Or can you hack the timer and make work at a fix rate in debug mode?

[Marc]

I never chcecked it, but I'ld guess about 1000 static objects like the trees and a few 100 dynamic ones after the monsters and mines got all spawned + the armie(s) of the player(s) - which is about 5 units in your case.

Anyways, I removed the monster spawning and removed everything except the objects around your starting house. About 3 trees, your house and the units that are bouncing. I also gave you admin rights, 0 and 9 should work know, be carefull not to remove everything And I also removed the opcode collisions with newtoncollisions in the live version now. So you have to run update first, copy your debug newton.dll in it and it should work. At least, it worked for me when I try putting the debug newton.dll in the dir now and start your island.

[Julio Jerez]

Ok I will try again.

I never chcecked it, but I'ld guess about 1000 static objects like the trees and a few 100 dynamic ones after the monsters and mines got all spawned + the armie(s) of the player(s) - which is about 5 units in your case.

That scene should work fine even in debug mode, In the future if you place those static objects in a Scene collision.
I will by skip the entire broadPhase collision and it will use a special MidPhase collision that is much faster since I take advantage that the shape do not move.

Scene collision is a collision shape teh act liek a collision tree and like a compoind collision.
like a compound because it take all find of objects tah is not anoteh scene collision.
like a collision tree because if can onl be static.

you still can move shapes but they act as static pieces.
you can add collision tree, compoudn collision, hightfield, and all closed shapes.
In my test demo I have compoudn collision with way over 9000 convex shapes, and the fps does not even blink even in debug mode.
your game should be similara sicne soem many object are static.

[Marc]

You have told me about that before, but I haven't done that yet. First I have to get the basics of the game running correctly and then I can look for optimizations. Up to now, newton in relase mode was fast enough after our last optimization session, so I haven't touched that since then.

[Julio Jerez]

No still does not runs with a debug DLL.
If I copy the relase one it work, but the debug just hang in connecting.

My machine is very fast it is a 2.9 icore7 with nvidea 260 gforce, so if it work for you it should work her as well.

[Marc]

wow, yes, that should do it, yours is much superior than mine.

I'll just put your debug dll in my dir and zip it altogether for you. Let's see if that changes anything.

[Marc]

Ok, I finished uploading and send you a pm with the url. It takes about 20 min to upload though.

It took some time, I had some trouble with my webspace :/

[Julio Jerez]

does that archive runs with the debug DLL?
I will try again tonight and see if it runs.

[Marc]

well, for me it does. I included the debug.dll from your marc.rar

You have to use your julio account and the xcxx region. That's where I remove a lot of objects.

[Julio Jerez]

OK I erased the old forder and unpacked this one, now I can launch from visual studio and it now the xcxx sector runs from the debugger, it is also small window which is nice.

I see about 5 units and I click on them so that they move to the edge of the map but I do not see the jump bug happing like it used to with the other build.
I tried for a few minutes and it did not happens, what do I do to increase the chances of the bug happening?